(warning: long. I promise that I won't post again for a few days to make up for it. I promise a Baby Daisy-palooza when this series is done.)
You are not my sister.
None of you are my sisters.
I have two sisters, thank you very much. They are of the biological persuasion. I love them to death. Seriously, when I am talking family--any family--I am a mamma bear like no other. I would do just about anything for my sisters (and brothers and aunts and uncles and nieces and nephews). If I think one of them is threatened, I will go all ape-shit until the situation is rectified.
Here in the blogosphere? This is not a sisterhood.
Let's be frank. I don't know you. I don't particularly want to know you. Sure I want to keep reading your writing and have you keep reading mine. If I visit your neck of the woods, I'd like to get together and stay up 'til all hours discussing life and howling at the moon. But if any one of you emailed me tomorrow to tell me you were moving here, to Sleepy Town, I would break out in a cold sweat.
You see, I don't want you near me. I don't want to make small talk in the park or get held up at the grocery store while we compare niceties about our kids. Nope. That's not what I want from you. From you, I want physical distance.
I want to preserve our distance for many reasons:
1. Like I am sooo totally crushing on you right now
I want to maintain this hyper-real state of being. I like the constructed intimacy of our relationships mainly because it is a constructed state. By bandying that term "construct" I don't mean to infer that the selves we share here are any less authentic than the selves we schlep to the park or to our local Mom's groups. I think we are authentic here in addition to being constructed. Part of this has to do with the simple act of life writing. Life is our only authentic experience; text is always a construct.
I feel that I can let down all sorts of barriers in this space that I could never let down in Sleepy Town. I will likely spend the rest of my life here. This is where Miss M will go to school. My husband and I will work our way to retirement here. Sleepy Town has become a life-long commitment and I need my barriers firmly in place to see me through 'til the end. I don't want to tell the women in my local mom's group about how I really feel about my mother's death or what maternal rage turns me into. Heaven's no. In less than ten years I will likely find myself on the opposite end of the debate with some of these women (women that I think the world of now) when it comes to implementing sex ed curricula in middle school or scrapping hot lunch programs. I live in a small city and I am from a small town. I know the cardinal rule. If you want to survive for the long haul then you need to know how and when to keep your guard up. That's why I don't really tell anyone but very close local friends about this blog. There is only one person in all of Sleepy Town who reads it regularly.
The relationships I have here in the 'sphere are different from those I have formed since moving to Sleepy Town. I don't usually think of these bloggy connections lasting a long time (if they do, that's great). Because of the physical distance between us I can't help but think we operate more according to the code of teen friendship: we can plunge head-long into our fears, our desires, our histories, and stories and not worry about the long term consequences. If it all goes up in smoke, we simply stop reading each other. If it goes up in smoke disasterously, I hit the "delete blog" key and say fuck it all. That, to my mind, is the key way in which we are constructed in this space. We can be as authentic as we like because, in the end, we can simply pull the plug if we want to.
2) Can't you tell? I am totally PMS-ing on you right now
This space respects and contains the constructedness of our conversations. If I piss you off, you can go away for a few posts and I am not likely to notice or fester. If you think some of my posts are funny (no ROFLs yet, alas) but others are self-indulgent wanking, you can pick and choose your reading without hurting my feelings. If we have a major ideological difference we can go our separate ways and it'll all be for the best. Ahem, except for you and you and you, oh special dozen, to whom I have grown quite attached. You can't bugger off so easily. But even if you do, my heart can break in silence. In this respect, blogging makes me feel like a kid again. 40-something women don't have girlfriend crushes. Bloggers and 12-years-old do.
3) I'll tell you because you are my bestest, bestest friend
Because we can live in this constructed, unguarded state, we can talk in the whispers and shouts of intimacy, frivolity, ideals and meaning that we would never dare broach in our adult, physical friendships. To top it all off, we don't have to worry that our pheremones will intermingle and give us all PMS at the same time.
Not all of us write this way but most of us have likely stumbled upon the confessional nature of the genre in our reading even if we haven't let our own guard down. I have talked frankly about death on my blog and I must admit that I am drawn to the blogs of other motherless mothers. I am still very much a repressed Protestant in that I really don't like some of the ambulance chasing that seems to go on in these parts. I will never click to a blog because it has been recommended for the pain its owner is currently undergoing. Who the hell wants a complete stranger showing up in their comments one day to say "my thoughts are with you"? To me that feels wrong. Icky.
Having said that, many of the blogs I read have taken my breath away with raw accounts of the writer's pain: death of parents and of children; infertility, miscarriage, rape; sickness; divorce, and societal discrimination. These are topics that rarely get discussed in real life. In my own posts on death I claimed that I wrote them in part because I don't like socially sanctioned silence when it comes to this natural and profound part of life. Blog reading for me has let me listen in on heart-wrenching and insightful accounts of other silenced life events. Having done this has deepened my understanding and capacity for sympathy.
Uh, will you come sit at my lunch table?
One of the big critiques of mommy blogging is that it is a rarified and homogenous space. I agree. I agree with every ounce of my poor, single-parent raised, social assistance dependent being. I will never make a claim that blogging speaks to all mothers or for all mothers because it doesn't. Period. There are issues of race and class and access, sure, but for me the big hurdle that blogging presents is literacy--high-functioning literacy. How many women are out there who not only can write thousands of words a week but who want to as well? Blogging will always be a genre of privilege just as publishing has always been a genre of privilege. Sure, it would be great if the blogosphere was more representative of non-mainstream groups who also possess this degree of literacy (because I don't think it currently is (the Equity argument)) and it would be even more ideal if the social fabric changed such that there was true equality when it comes to high-functioning literacy (the Affirmative Action argument). These are problems that cannot be solved today, this minute, this hour, or this year. (I will come back to this again in my last post in this series.)
Having said this, I would like to look at the composition of my lunch table. When I think back on my IRL friendships from over the years I realize that I have tended to be extremely insular. When I was a grad student, most of my friends were grad students. Now that I am an academic librarian, most of my friends are academics. I think this is likely the case for most of us. We are drawn to people we have something in common with. Sure, I've branched out a bit here and there over the years, but modern life takes up so much of what I have and there really is very little time to be with friends as it is, let alone to diversify one's community.
Before I started blogging, I spent my evenings listen to Simon Cowell speak formulaic crap while I either knit teddy bears or did dishes. Now I blog and I have developed a rather smallish (though treasured) collection of readers and commenters--this is the community that I respond back to through my comments. In this community I see the following:
two or three academics (just like real life)
two or three librarians (except none of them academic librarians)
a few SAHMs
a lawyer
a few civil servants
a woman who runs a homeless shelter
a therapist
a doula
an artist
a musician
a bunch of Canadians
a few Americans
a couple of Brits
an Australian
a woman living in Germany
a woman living in Mauritania
a couple of childless women
a lesbian
a grandmother
women as young as twenty four and as old as forty five
a few women with special needs children
a mother of a child with physical differences
a few Christians
a Jew
a Wiccan
a bunch of agnostics
some atheists
a whole whack of city dwellers
a few country mice like myself
Pardon me for playing identity politics with you all but I need to say this. Never in my real life have I been exposed to such diversity in my peer group. Never. We may all be white, middle class women in the West but we are more diverse as a group than likely most of us could manage to hobble together for a Wednesday night reading group. I certainly couldn't pull a group like this together in Sleepy Town. Not in my wildest dreams.
Oh and did I mention that if I weren't here, I'd be watching TV. Now that would be homogeneity.
Sure, this degree of diversity may not be world altering but it does have its trickle-down effect. My ideas and opinions have been broadened. The way that I respond (and will respond) to issues in my local community has been altered. I have learned heaps and mounds from all the social justice posts that have come to my attention of late. I have broadened the scope of my charitable giving since becoming a blogger. I have been able to speak with other mothers in my community about parenting issues that have been addressed in this space. In short, blogging has done a lot more that just make me feel fulfilled and smug. What I have learned here is starting to seep out a bit into the concrete world that surrounds me.
I guess you don't have cooties after all
Blogging has also done something else significant for me. Let me explain. Over the last few months I have read several posts where bloggers explain the awkwardness they feel in conventional parenting situations. Often the lament is "I don't feel like I belong with the other Mom's in the park/ at play group/ in kinder music..." Usually the comment section on such posts overflows with "I know what you means" and "I've so been there's." From this I have taken away that a goodly number of us don't in fact wear this mantle of motherhood easily. That makes me wonder if any mothers really do. Now when I go to the park, I try not to feel alienated and isolated. I try to align myself with what the other mothers might be feeling. At the public library this past Saturday, I watched a mother chasing her two exuberant boys around trying to round them up and draw their attentions to books. The pre-blogging me might have thought "poor her" or "can't she control her kids." The blogging me wonders "what is her life, her inner life? What is her experience as a woman and a mother? How does she feel in this moment? Does she feel awkward, like she just doesn't belong here?" I guess you could say that blogging has made me feel not only more comfortable as a mother but also more at home with other mothers.
Will you remember me if I sign your year book?
You may not be my sisters but you are something quite real and quite significant to me. I have grown quite fond of this hybrid of Sim City and midwifery. Does this mean you are my friends? Sorry. I'm afraid I don't know yet. Over the last two weeks I have been in touch with or thinking about friends from my past. One is a woman who I haven't seen in over a decade and who emailed me out of the blue to tell me she is a new Mom. Photos and a flurry of emails ensued. The other is a friend and mentor who is sick--a man I have seen four times since I moved to Sleepy Town seven years ago. In both these instances, the immediate rush I had upon hearing from/about them was a physical rush. K's infectious laugh and the warmth of her smile. T's earnestness. His smell. The way he lives each week as if it were Random Acts of Kindness Week. My memories of them as friends are deeply corporeal. These people feel as if they are part of the flesh and blood that has brought me to this place and to this person that I am.
How will I remember you (and by you I mean the bloggers that I have developed a strong rapport with)? I can barely remember the plots of books that I read five years ago. Characters fade from my imagination so quickly. Who are you to me? Are you text or are you flesh? I guess time will tell.
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Yet another bloody caveat
This post is my experience of the blogosphere; it won't reflect every blogger's experience of it. I tend to focus my reading on parenting blogs that engage with social issues, that reflect on what motherhood and what parenting mean from a theoretical or even metaphoric standpoint, and that aren't afraid to speak to the full-range of dirty and sublime emotions we encounter in our day-to-day lives. This kind of reading isn't everyone's cup of tea. Perhaps your experience in these part differs dramatically.
Wednesday, March 14, 2007
Mad's Big Bloggy Thinkfest: part 3
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54 hats in the ring:
Okay, so, after #2 I was planning on writing, "Well, if we're not friends then how come our menstrual cycles are aligning?" And then I read #3...and you'd thought of that!
This post raises a lot of stuff for me. It's late, though, so I'll just address #1. I can't say that I have gotten down and dirty in the sharing department with friends that I have met through being a mom, but as a few more of my friends have had kids, I do find that I'm sharing a lot of that stuff. Maybe part of it is that I've also acted as their Doula and since I see that as a supportive role (maybe for a limited time, but I've found that hard to let go, with friends) I feel like it's my duty to speak the truth.
I don't know how that translates to the blogosphere except that I imagine that if I got to know some of the bloggers I've felt I had something in common with, we'd be starting off in a place where honesty is part of the deal, in the same way that my pre-child friends and I have evolved into being able to be honest about the struggles we face.
That's it for now. Good luck with the event tomorrow! Rest well.
You tell it like it is, and I like that in an Idol-watching, academic librarian from Sleepy Town.
#1 "I feel that I can let down all sorts of barriers in this space that I could never let down..."
#2 "In this respect, blogging makes me feel like a kid again. 40-something women don't have girlfriend crushes. Bloggers and 12-years-old do."
#3 "Because we can live in this constructed, unguarded state, we can talk in the whispers and shouts of intimacy, frivolity, ideals and meaning that we would never dare broach in our adult, physical friendships."
"My ideas and opinions have been broadened."
"I guess you could say that blogging has made me feel not only more comfortable as a mother but also more at home with other mothers."
Sorry for the laziest comment ever in which I use your own words to comment, but these lines really summed it up for me.
Well stated, Mad. I was so enthralled, I didn't even realize the length of the post.
Mad, I love you.
You know, in a constructed, non-corporeal, but-I-was-a-MOH-at-your-wedding sense.
I agree with the whole shebang. Except that I don't think it's just about literacy--though that's a big part of it--but also that some groups are regularly listened to with respect when they speak, and others are not. And I think, when presented with another opportunity to speak (i.e. the blogosphere), if you've never had the experience of being listened to respectfully, you are not as likely to take it.
This was a really interesting read, though my experience is very different. For instance, one is the reasons I blog is in order to meet people (in person). I would tell a good friend anything I would say on my blog.
i love your perspective.
i've written and deleted about ten comments already, so i think i'll just leave it at that.
I love this post - especially for it's honesty. I agree completely that the privilege of this space is one of literacy, but it's not only that but also access to technology and to time. When I think about the amount of time, free time, that blogging takes, I realize that this is also a mark of privilege.
Also, one of the amazing side-effects of my blogging life has been finding RL friends who do know alot of my business. I don't know whether this differs because of my origins as an infertility blogger or whether it differs because I live in a large, rather than small town, but this is one of the only points where my experience differs.
Thanks for writing this. I really enjoyed reading.
Ugh. I have SUCH a crush on you - such a deep, unrequited crush from a distant lunch table on the other side of the cafeteria.
This post is brilliant.
I've been struggling with blogger identity/actual identity issues lately as I've considered writing in actual paper-and-ink mediums - Do I divorce myself from my blogger identity when I publish? Do I publish under my blogger pseudonym, thereby taking no actual credit for my work (and would my ego be able to take that?) Or do I out myself and see what happens? There are no easy answers.
Interesting stuff.
Like Metro Mama, I'm open. Very, very open. I have tons of real life friends, and they know everything about me. They also know my blog address, should they want to move beyond having to listen to me monologue for HOURS a week. I do know what you mean about small towns though...
Meeting people I've only known online has always been odd, because there's this level of intimacy with a complete stranger, and it's sort of jarring to meet this unknown person who knows me. My friends' physical selves are such a part of who they are, and I think that we're able to present such edited versions of ourselves online that meeting the real-life counterpart will always be odd.
I had fun reading your community list, picking out myself (SAHM 30-something Canadian Christian countrydweller, check).
Beck,
I am very open too. Every friend I've ever known pretty much knows about my blog. Some read it. My entire family knows about my blog. The thing is, none of these people live in this small community with me. My level of intimacy with my old friends is as great and often greater than the intimacy I convey in my writing here. I have no problem with any of those people knowing about this space.
The uncertainty for me is my future in this small community. I don't know how things will play out here and, as a result, I am cautious. I moved here in my late-30s. It has been my experience that the friendships we make later in life are more guarded than those of youth. Perhaps, I am simply at my guarded time of life.
Andrea: I agree with your point about how some groups are invested with authority and others are not and therefore are more reluctant to speak. For me, this issue is so tied up in questions of race, class, sexuality, access. For me, it's all about how I still feel like an imposter in my academic setting after all these years. It's definitely why I left the PhD program all those years ago. I simply didn't feel entitled to it.
Suz: a big yes on the access to technology and time argument
And BOOOM my mind just blew.
LOL
I must ponder. I don't know completely what I think or what I want to say, but you can bet I'll be back. :)
And if it is too long, I'll try to use my own real estate with a linkback.
Mad - I do know what you're saying. Blogland is temporary and the relationships we make here (with hopefully some exceptions) are temporary too. I think the highschool friendship analogy is spot-on.
Great post, Mad. Bless you for telling it like it really is: a lot of this is pretty blunt, and I think it takes guts to say this sort of thing.
Yours ever, the academic / city dweller / atheist :-)
You've captured so well the way the blogosphere can be homogeneous and yet, paradoxically, broadening. I have experienced the same thing: on the one hand I find that over time my readership is homogenizing (in the sense that I keep stumbling upon theologically conservative but politically left Christians - a rare breed in any environment), but at the same time, your list really captured the diversity of this particular corner of the blogosphere.
I don't share your sense of boundaries regarding distance - if I could move you and Beck and some other people to my town, I'd do it in a heartbeat (beware the day I become ruler of the known universe! ). The day we met it was all so fleeting that I was left with this palpable longing for the physicality of friendship. At the same time, there are things we can say in blogland that are too long (among other things) to utter over a Starbucks.
My experience is different than yours - probably because my blog is 99.9% total idiocy and puerile idiocy at that.
My friends and family do read it, so I'm not revealing my inner most secrets to strangers alone.
I have met other bloggers in person and genuinely liked them. In truth, it was awkward - as meeting anyone new in person can be - at first, but I like them as I suspected I would from reading thier blogs.
I am thinking of going to blogher - not for the workshops (psssssh, workshops!) but solely to meet people that I have come to care about by reading their posts.
I do honestly find solidarity in understanding my own identity as a mother with others in the way this forum allows.
I think the internet is creating a new kind of relationship, with new rules and that we don't understand them yet.
B&P: Hey, I would love to live in a town about a half hour from you and see you for regular meaningful visits--or to live in a big city with you where these issues get muddled. The fact that I am spending a small fortune to actually hang with you again in the near future is a testament to how meaningful I do think these bloggy relationships are.
Another post I want to write some time will deal with just how geographic realities play out in this virtual space.
ALL: Please know that when I wrote that last para, the unsaid answer to that final question is this: I do want you do be flesh. I do want you to be friends. The problem is I haven't walked this road before so I simply don't know how it will play out.
Oh and one more thing that I didn't include in the post: while I say that I don't like the amulance-chasing feeling I get sometimes, I do appreciate-very very much-all the kind sentiments I have received in the commnets for posts that have dealt with heartache or uncertainty. I try to bring the same level of kindness and understanding to your comment space as well. To me doing so is not simply an act of human decency but also an act of friendship. It's just that I think it important to establish a rapport with another blogger first.
brilliant peeling back of the layers, sister (good god, can i still call you that?)
it's itchy in here. and yet feels right at the same time.
Jen, you can always call me "sister". Can I call you "sistah!" back?
This makes me sad. I feel like the only kid who didn't get an invitation to the party, and even when I find out later that the invitation just got lost, I'm still not going to feel quite so happy at the party, because maybe you really just felt sorry for me.
(You think you've got PMS?)
It's not that easy to press the delete button. It's pretty hard not to check your comments more than once a day, or an hour, let alone decide to quit.
De, You are sooo right. It would be so isolating to hit the delete key. That is the down side to it all. If I did get to the point where I had to hit the "delete blog" key, though, I would be happy that I didn't also have to avert my eyes each time I saw you in the grocery store.
Wait a minute....
Mad, are you coming to S Ontario?
I must be weird. I still have friends that I met in high school...and we have real, grown-up relationships, not just high-school throw-back reminiscing-fests.
I haven't met any bloggers in real life yet, but I have been struck at times that some people seem like they would be great fun to have around...
Gawd, where do I begin? I can't. You take my breath away, Mad, you really do. The turns this post has taken are quite brilliant. My own experience is also not the same--I am far from a recluse--social to a detriment. I live in an urban renewal community that is heavily interactive and engaged (a breath of fresh air from the academic community on and around campus). But if we moved... I think I'd be writing this post, perhaps.
Are we text or are we flesh?
Both. Always. (show me one that is not the other.)
But that question "Who are you to me?" The implications of that question, and asking it myself. It's almost sublime (in the true sense of the term--to face the abyss).
Okay, I'm totally having difficulty figuring out what to say here. Yes, yes, true that, uh-huh... And hmmm. I am, too, finding that it has expanded my views in ways I never anticipated, made me happy to be part of something larger that promotes that in so many people, made me more aware of many things around me. And while I have been feeling aware and unimpressed by my rather woefully shallow postings of late, I love the occasions when blogging makes me think. Like now. Thanks, hon.
In my (um?) corporeal life I am friendly but not particularly revealing, if that makes sense. I hardly ever talk about things that make me feel strongly, whether strongly happy or sad or angry. My blog is like that, too.
Also, the hang-ups I have regarding friendship with women have followed me in the online world. Oh how I envy your ability to be emotionally generous.
Sage: I don't mean to devalue teen friendship in this post. Blogging has made me feel young, excited, heady in all the right ways. That's why I wouldn't want to change the dynamics that make it work so well for me.
Sin: I think you would be great fun to have around.
Joy: I am actually a very social person. Very. All day I thought to myself, "would I have written this post if I still lived in Edmonton (big city)?" In the end, I decided the question was specious; if I still lived in Edmonton I would be surrounded by my university friends most of whom started breeding around the time I did. Having them around me likely would've kept me from stumbling into blogging in the first place. These friendships were rich and deep. They met my needs beautifully. It is my isolation from other mothers in this small city that brought me to the internet in the first place. In fact, I started blogging shortly after I returned to work and my weekly mom's group folded into a once in a blue moon group.
All: one of the "isms" that always gets left out of the exlusion arguments is "regionalism." I find it interesting that so few of the bloggers I encounter live in smaller communities. The only blogger that I have ever had any discussions about boundaries with is Beck. Beck lets everyone know about her blog and writes accordingly. I try to do the same but I slip up a lot more and so I am more closeted to the community where I live. Besides, Beck lives in the community she grew up in. She has deep ties there. I don't know how well any of you know the Maritimes but I will always be "from away." I will always wear the mantle of the outsider. Outsiders need to watch what they say and where there say it.
Mad, it was a great device. I was just extending it to explain further what I tried to say in my first comment -- I have few (although that's changing) but very close friends, and they've always been fairly intense friendships.
On your last point: my grandmother was born on the Prairies but lived the last 55 years of her life in a small town in Northern BC. Even though the town itself was only as old as she was, she was always considered an outsider to some degree. As kids, we used to joke, "How long ya been here? 40 years? Ah, a neewwwcomer!"
Sage: and I have close, intense friendships too. Sadly, they are splattered all over North America now. This puts the kibosh on a lot of the intensity. Ah, the perils of academia.
Interesting question about the big city/small city dynamic. I think you might still have blogged if you were living in Edmonton - all my friends are here (one of the reasons I chose my city over my career), but friendship changes A LOT when everyone has babies. It's still a lifeline - but it's one you tug on every month or so. That still leaves a lot of room in your heart for blogging.
I feel as if you wrote this on glass with a diamond. Damn, you're good. I am about to download this so that I can look at it a lot.
thank you
This is my favourite of this series so far. Especially the part about being exposed to an incredible diversity of women (and men, in some cases). YES.
Rebecca (Girls Gone Child) wrote a very moving post last year about why she WASN'T going to BlogHer - she didn't want her 'crushes' exposed to the harsh light of reality. She wanted to keep crushing and to NEVER KNOW if any of those crushes were anything less than her fantasies told her that they were. I totally got that/get that.
BUT. I've met a great a many of my bloggy friends. And without exception, they live up to the beauty of their insights and their words, the things that made me fall in love in the first place. And, and... those that live in my city have become good friends and collaborators. I'd love to widen the circle further.
But you're right that if we all lived in a small town, or saw each other ALL THE TIME, the sheen might wear off. Then again, I suspect that I would feel that about my sister, too. And pretty much everyone else.
So maybe this is all not so far off from real life...
Bad: I keep wanting to mention the men but even though I do read a couple of parenting blogs by men, in the year I've been doing this I have only ever received 2 comments from men. That's why when I looked at my lunch table of regular readers the composition was all women.
YES! I do want to meet other bloggers. I just don't want them to move here. I've been thinking a lot about this post and the comments I've received since yesterday and the more I think about it the more I realize how much I am governed by regionalism and my sense of myself as being an outsider in this place. I MUST write a post about this some time b/c we never ever seem to talk about real-life geography in this virtual world.
Babe, I need to come back and read this a little more thoroughly...but for now I get the gist of it and I have to say I totally understand what you are saying. There is so much to be said for this medium, I, well, I am pretty much what I write, those who know me well think my blog is pretty much me. Yet, I still think it is a different me, a different possible me, and a physical, neighbourly intimacy with another blogger might destroy my construct.
That being said, I have had the privilige of getting to know some of the local Toronto bloggers, and for some reason, perhaps because we only see each other on rare occaisions, it somehow makes the blogging more fun.
I guess it is sort of like my little fantasy life with my trainer. The fantasy is brilliant, but making it real, in the flesh, would ruin it perhaps.
So I hug you from afar girl.
The cooties paragraph was the one that resonated most with me. I read it three times, just nodding along. Blogging has made me empathetic in ways that life never did.
Very good stuff!
First I feel I need to apologize for the post I wrote when you started this series. Of course you didn't mean to say anything as simple as I (initially) seemed to think!
Regarding regionalism, YES. It surprises me how little locale is (usually) reflected in a blog. The weather is mentioned but that's about it. I haven't coherent thoughts on it. I wonder if we really are as homogenous as all that, or if we are deliberately obscuring our locale in order to appeal to a broader audience.
Mad...if I had to pick one blogger who makes me think, whose words urge me to step outside of my box and take a look at the bigger picture, to consider another point of view, it's you, hands down.
This post is really, really good. I'm kind of at a loss for words, because I'm kind of a dolt when it comes to commenting on posts like this -- posts where I have so much I want to say in response but can't get it all out in time without sounding a bit tipsy. I agree with you on so many points, and you have also, again, touched on things that I really don't think I would have considered had I not read them right here on this site.
So, thanks. For your honesty and for sharing your experience as a blogger. It feels silly for me to say this -- kind of trite after such a strong post -- but I appreciate it.
I am not one of your regular readers. However, when I do come by, I like what I see.
You're smart and articulate and I have a weakness for that.
It stops there, for the most part. Clearly I don't fit into your general demographic and that's fine. I'm 55, eccentric, child-free and am not even connected into western culture ~ by choice.
Blah blah... yak yak yadda yadda....
Nevertheless, I appreciate what you do here, appreciate your thoughts and enjoy the way your mind works.
We will probably never meet and that's perfectly okay. It is what it is.
All this to say I see what you're saying.
peace,
~Chani
Jennifer: You absolutely do not owe me an apology. You have/had every right to post what you want in your space. I don't even think that your post really misrepresented what I had said. I had noticed that your spin on things left the door open for your commenters (who may not have read my post) to misinterpret my intention. That's why I clarified things in the comment and I was very grateful that you edited your post to reflect my comment so quickly. That was generous of you.
As for region, it is a tough nut to crack. I think I need to think on it a bit more and then post once my thoughts have settled.
Tulip. Wow. Like, um, WOW!!! Pardon me while I go into my living room and jump up and down squealing with delight.
Back again. Thank you. Your comment was too kind.
Chani,
I'm kinda fond of 55-year-old childless eccentrics. I too read your blog here and there and very much enjoy it when I can get there. I think we both have socialist souls.
I can understand why you don't read me regularly. I spend a lot of time talking about what it means to raise a 2-year-old. That must be yawns-ville for you. I know it would be for me if I was in your shoes.
Thanks for dropping round once in a while.
Mad, nope.. not necessarily yawns-ville. It's all good information. In some ways, reading the blogs of mothers helps me to understand that point of view. My mother and I do not have a relationship. Sometimes it's good to hear that there are plenty of mothers who do care, who do their best, who learn and grow and pass that along to their children.
Oh, no... there's MUCH value in that. :)
I don't read regularly because, frankly, you (like Andrea) are out of my league. You're so well-spoken that all I can ordinarily do is say.. "aaaaaahhhh" ~ kind of like a fresh drink of water on a hot day.
As I said, I have a weakness for smart.. and a weakness for articulate.
:)
I'm glad you come by my spot occasionally as well. It's a lull right now ~ I don't have much to say. Cycles and all that.
And, yes, we both have socialist souls.
Be well .. and, again, thanks for all you do here.
Peace,
~Chani
Chani: shucks, thanks. For the record, I don't think of myself as much more than a bad punster who can't help but worry things out in public.
Mad, this is so wonderful and overwhelming...catching up here tonight is making me a bit dizzy.
And grateful for this wonderful post.
I'm so totally keeping this in my bloglines clippings! I have been thinking about real life and online, and friendship a lot in the past weeks. Seeing you in the flesh is quite out of the question (German Ph.D.-drop-out musician here), but I'd like to.
Blogging "friends" fill a hole in my heart since I haven't found that much friends where I live, and the ones I have had have moved away.
The point of yours that I'll think about for awhile will be that we bloggers are people who can and want to write several thousand words a week. That seems to be the thing that my real life friends find the most astonishing about my blog. (Especially since I'm blogging in a foreign language.)
It seems as though I have been sucked into the mommiblogoramasphere, and certainly didn't expect it. I will admit that most of you see more of the real me than people I spend 40+ hours with weekly.
You're not my sisters, you're not my family, but in my way, I love you.
This post made me think more than I had planned, for a sunday.
I'm reading your series backwards, catching up... and looking forward to it. Because this post really makes me think about what I want out of this blogging circle I've found.
I love the diversity as well; it's what makes it so very interesting and provocative. I differ, tho', in that I'd be delighted if I lived nearer to some of the bloggers I regularly read and 'chat' with.
Great post, as usual. ;-)
I've lurked here in the past, Mad, but I felt compelled to comment. You've made me delurk!
Your experience with the blogging community is very close to what mine has been. Of course, we tend to gravitate towards other who are "similar," and in one sense I think all of us are. We may have different jobs, religions, or even skin color. In geography and demographics, this is probably the most diverse group I've been exposed to on a regular basis as well. But in other, more fundemental ways, we are all very, very similar. The women (and men) I've encountered in the blogosphere are excited about new ideas, they are introspective, self-critical, and frequently engage in mental vomiting all over the internet (myself included). I think we're all drawn back here by the back and forth, the critical conversations about everything under the sun, and our shared human experiences. In a way, I think we're all very similar if that makes any sense at all!
Yes.
Entirely.
P-man and I used to speak out against the blogger hook ups... Ruins the mystique, hey? I have been thinking a lot about the blog-urgeousie, too. It is irrefutable. But balanced by the potential of the interchange to foster more sympathetic interparent dynamics in general.
Oh goodness, I'm coming to this so late (rascals are acting up... time is short) but I'm here and I'm reading and I'm with you.
amen.
Hello, Mad Hatter. This is a great post...I was just thinking today about what it would be like if all of us blogging buddies actually met up at a play group or something. It does seem like the magic lies somewhat in the mystery...
I stopped by today because I consistently find your name popping up on the blogs I comment on, so I decided it was time to introduce myself and say hello. I'm happy to meet you!
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